Tackling Burnout: "Can I Just Say 'No'?"

In this powerful first episode of Listen to My Mother, meet Shain—a New York Jewish mom with decades of lived wisdom—and Sarah, her daughter and a practicing therapist. Together, they tackle a deeply personal listener letter from Kelly, a healthcare worker who’s completely burnt out after years on the COVID front lines, family trauma, and pregnancy loss.

With heart, humor, and raw honesty, Shain and Sarah unpack burnout, grief, the emotional toll of always being the “fun friend,” and what it means to ask for—and give—yourself permission to rest.

Whether you're a mom, a daughter, a caregiver, or simply someone trying to hold it all together, this episode will make you feel seen, supported, and maybe even a little lighter.

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